Hyper.nl Unreal Services

Rõþõ+RõN · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 18

Hey,
this Server is more and more becoming a Place to suck. More and more Players kill each other at Roundstart and yelling "Noob! Want 1on1?". This wannabe's are a span of satan.
Or Moderators use the admin functions to rush the Map and kill all monsters. Yes nice, the rest of the player team has only to push buttons. This is a good definition of coop. Why they dont start a single-player game? Ah yes, everyone must know the penis size, because 1000000000000 frags in the score list look good.

Banning Players? Haha! In Unreal a big joke! Dynamic IP is a spawn of satan, too.

The problem in unreal is, you change your name, re-dail-in, reconnect and now u can beginn sucking.

I woulld change following (may be implementated as a mutator like mcoop):
* Track how often a player is shoting other Players. Then may be prevent him to get another gun, or kick him, freeze him, or just destroy his pc,
* Make other Players invulnerable to other players shots (like on zombies server?)
* Some guns are evil. Prevent unknown players to get such guns.
* Elect some *GOOD* Moderators
* Password protected Server?
* LoginSystem like WON? Maybe more Servers can take part in such a system

Just do something... sometimes it realy sucks :shakehead:
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Rõþõ+RõN · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 18

I think thats the Wrong place for ads!

I dont plan to set up a new server.

Another *NICE* thing is: Moderator disables end and than leav the server, very nice...
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Rõþõ+RõN · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 18

Other nice thing: Speedending of lamers. They play as monster end end each map in 1 minutes...
The Server is unplayble if Hyper isnt there... :(

So, other Tip: Make a min.timeleft or make that i.e: 60% of monsters must be killed to avtivate end.
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Zombie · Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 295

Hyper · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject:

Sorry, but I don't have a solution for the problems now. My holiday is over and my study resumes so I don't have enough time to watch the server every day. (And even when I did have time, I can't and don't want to be a policeman all the time.) Yes, I can get more 3rd party admins, but I've had some extremely bad experiences with that. (Promising admins came out to be just cheaters, lamers or hackers.) The people I really trust as admin are all busy with other things like programming, running their own servers and real life and don't want to be admin. I'm already using some security and anti-lamer functions like the GemDagger password but i don't have anything that protect against things like enders or players shooting other players. If you know about tools that can help against this (It must be stable and may not be a game type, because I already use the MCoop2 gametype) I like to use them on the server, but i haven't found any.

I don't like radical options like turning the server to a private one, because I like it to be a accessible public server.

Banning is not a problem. All IP's are logged and I can use Joss' method to ban IP ranges with my IP filtering software. This already happened to a few evil players.

Yes, I use tempban against mass-enders, but probably they just come back and resume their behaviour when the ban ends.

About my admins: I thought I finally found 2 realiable persons, but maybe I made a mistake. But that does not solve the lamer problem in general.

So, what are the options?

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Rõþõ+RõN · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 18

Make it *hard* for the *possible* lamers.

I.e. a voting system if someone enters an ending zone.
I dont know a Tool whic does that. May be someone could code it.

I dont know the details, but maybe use the GemDegger-Password / Playername for banning players who shot other players a lot. So they have to get a new weapon when they chnage the password or the name.

I fully agree with you, that a password server will result in an empty server.
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Zombie · Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 295

I took a quick look at the MCoop2 source. It doesn't have any mutator calls for when players take hits so there would be no way to "ignore" shots without the actual main MCoop2 package being updated. However, it is quite possible to release a new MCoop2 serverside mutator to track players hits for whatever control actions preferred.

Hyper · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:27 am Post subject:

There might still be some possible solutions, but developers like Winged, Zombie Joss and Boodaflow (From who I use a number of very nice mods already, and 100% free) probably get a little annoyed from my feature requests already :p.

But, if any of you know any way to solve or moderate the problem(s) any idea's or help is welcome of course. I got a few possible idea's but I don't know if they are easily archievable:

Disallowing monster players to end. This is an option in MCoop2's MonsterCoop mode, but I don't see it in MCoop2's Coop mode, which I use. (Sephrioth gave me this tip)

An option to cancel ending. Possibly like Cooopg2: When a player triggers the end teleporter, a message appears "Say NO to disable ending", giving players 10 seconds to abort the ending process.

A configurable minimum play time option for each map, maybe like MCoop2's MapTimer, but then a minimum time. The end is disabled until the minimum play time is expired.

Any forther possible idea's? Feel free to discuss them here. I don't have any idea's about how to stop the players shooting problem however

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I know JCoop gives a message with friendly fire, but this does not stop lamers from cratering others with heavy weapons. And JCoop is a gametype, which can not be used together with other game types like MCoop2.

So this post still ends with some idea's leading to feature requests

but if you still are not annoyed yet :p, and are willing to + have some time to search for possible solutions: Any help is welcome of course.
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Rõþõ+RõN · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 18

May be a mod counts how often a player is shoting on another players. If it becomes to much the player will be warned. If he ignores the warning the server could ban the playername. so he needs to get a new weapon.
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Zombie · Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 295

WårLord · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject:

i love the idea that says you get 10 secs to say no and that will disable ending. i think that would put a stop for the most part for enders.
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The Wolf · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 24

I think it should be "Say YES to end this level", and the level only ends if 75% of the players say yes but cancel after 15 seconds returning the player at the end point to the start of the map.